(L-R) Dr. Mahesh Reddy of Nova Medical, Anil Singhvi of Ican,
Sandip Bhagat of S&R Associates,
Gautam Benjamin of Edelweiss, Kanwal Rekhi of Inventus
Capital and Alok Gupta of Headland Capital
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Kicking off the panel titled "Private Equity
& Venture Capital: The Road Ahead",
Dr.Mahesh Reddy, Co-founder &
Director, Nova
Medical, provided an overview of the emerging
trends in healthcare, the sector voted by PE/VC investors as
their favorite in 2012.
Pointing out how islands of excellence exist amidst an ocean of
inadequacy
in Indian healthcare, Dr.Reddy argued for the government to move out of
direct healthcare delivery and to focus instead on preventive
measures like providing safe drinking water, sanitation, etc.
Dr.Reddy
highlighted
the various innovative business models emerging in the sector
including in delivery formats like specialty clinics, diagnostic
center chains, cancer specialty hospital chains, etc. He
detailed the steps needed for the emergence of a structured form
of healthcare delivery in India with the aim of addressing the
needs of all citizens.
Commenting that the spike in the venture capital activity is
good for the industry since it means that, over the years, a lot
more well-funded and well-organized companies will come into the
market, Alok
Gupta, Managing Director, Headland Capital,
said
the lack of exits however has been a major challenge. “Most funds would
look forward to exits rather than to large investments this
year,” he said. Gupta predicted that secondary deals – in which
the existing PE investor sells its stake to another PE investor
- is likely to remain as a strong trend over the next 12-18
months. He also noted how the gap in mezzanine funding in the
market is becoming increasingly felt.
Veteran
angel and VC investorKanwal
Rekhi, Managing Director, Inventus Capital,agreed
with Gupta on the issue of exits, adding that, compared to
China, India presented a more difficult scene for exits. For
example, there was no IPO listing in Nasdaq by Indian companies
during 2011 and
there was only one in the previous year, compared to over 40
from China.
“As a i-banker
, I am more optimistic about 2012,” said Gautam Benjamin,
Senior Vice President, Edelweiss Financial.
He pointed out that despite starting on a gloomy note, 2011
ended up as the second best in the last seven years in terms of
PE investments. He expected promoters to look at the PE funding route
in 2012 as the capital markets will be highly picky
this year.
Talking
about the developments in the regulatory domain,Sandip
Bhagat, Partner, S&R Associates
said that PE investors should watch out for compliance with
Competition Act and also the
new Companies Bill. For example, as per the new Companies Bill, insider
trading norms are sought to be applied to all companies and not
just listed firms. Consequently, that would have impact on how
capital is raised and how information is shared with investors, Bhagat said.
Anil Singhvi of Ican speaking
as part of the
Inaugural Panel
Anil Singhvi, Chairman, Ican Investment Advisors
began with a note of caution saying that, notwithstanding the
stock market rally in the first few weeks of the year, 2012 might
actually be worse than 2011. He reminded the audience that the
government had corrected its growth forecasts gradually through
the year, from 9% in the 2011 Union Budget to 7% now.
Recalling his experience with fund raising through the PE route
as early as in 1999 (as part of Ambuja Cements), Singhvi said
that PE investments in India has remained a “money providing
game” even though such investors can play a much larger role in
terms of being active board members. He regretted that
investment decisions are largely based on spreadsheets and
argued that PE investors should get to know businesses in which
they are investing better and be more willing to take risks.
(L-R)
Sandeep Reddy
of Peepul Capital,
Robert Brown of Lincoln
International, Sudip Bandyopadhyay of Destimoney,
Naina Krishna Murthy of K-Law,
Rajiv Kaul of CMS InfoSystems and Vikram Narula of India Value Fund
Naina Krishna Murthy, Managing Partner, K-Law
set the ball rolling by stating that in India, in 2011, less
than 5% of PE deals were buyouts compared to 40% globally.
Reflecting on why the number of buyouts is so few in India, she
cited factors such as lack of professional management teams
required to operate companies post buyouts, unwillingness on the
part of promoters to give up stake for valuation- and
sentiment-related reasons and a regulatory framework that is not
conducive for doing leveraged buyouts.
Vikram Narula, Partner, India Value Fund
said that, compared to 10 years ago, there is much better
recognition today among corporate houses of Private Equity as an
option when they seek to exit businesses. He observed that a large number of entrepreneurs are
able take their businesses up to a certain level, but after that,
often struggle for capital and other business enablers
(especially management talent) to scale further. By entering
into a control transaction with a PE investor, they won’t have
to worry about the capital issue and will also be able to bring
on board experts (available either in-house at the fund or via
consultants) who are highly experienced in terms of building
scale. Also, since such transactions often involve a secondary
element (wherein the investor purchases a portion of the
promoters’ shares), the promoters also get to
partially de-risk themselves financially.
Sandeep Reddy, Managing Director, Peepul Capitalsaid
since legal implementation of contracts in India is time
consuming, his firm has preferred to opt for controlling stakes
in most of its transactions. Such deals enable the firm to
“control its own destiny” which is especially important given
the firm’s obligations to its investors. Control transactions
take longer to complete especially since it involves creation of
deep trust between the investor and the entrepreneurial team. As
more and more promoters and entrepreneur-managers understand the
power of this capital, the scope for control transactions would
increase, he predicted.
Robert Brown, Managing Director, Lincoln International,
outlined the key reasons for the popularity of buyouts in mature
markets such as the US. The owners or promoters of companies
that go in for such transactions, realize that though they may
not retain board control or governance control post the buyout,
they would typically get higher valuations and also enjoy
operational control over the business. Plus, as long as they
select the right PE partner who can add value to the business,
they could expect to gain substantial upside on their balance
equity as the business scales going forward.
Sudip Bandyopadhyay, MD & CEO, Destimoney Securities (a company that is majority owned by PE firm New Silk Route),said
that, in India, there is a clear distinction between promoters
and professional managers when it comes to buyout/control
transactions. A typical Indian promoter does not want to give up
control and become a manager in a company that he/she once
majority-owned. On the other hand, there is a growing breed of
professional managers who have good track records in managing
large businesses at the established business groups. Going
forward, such professional managers will be willing to take
entrepreneurial risk as teams and will attract more private
equity capital, he predicted. He pointed out that having sector
experts equips a fund to better advise the company’s management
and keep a watch on its performance, but cautioned that such
experts should not be tempted to run the investee companies.
Rajiv Kaul, CEO, CMS InfoSystems
(a company that is majority owned by PE firm Blackstone), said promoters tend to have very
clear short term goals and long term goals (“we want make x
amount of money”, “we want to create a lasting brand”, “we want
to have our brand on buildings,” etc.), while PE firms have very
good medium term plans (since they would have zeroed in on a sector
after
mapping out how they can scale such a business over the next 5-6 years, etc.)
and if the both can be married, it makes for a powerful
combination.
Kaul
said that a large number of buyout deals were waiting to happen
in the mid-market in India, but there are not too many funds
concentrating on such transactions. Among the challenges in
doing such transactions however would be attracting quality
management teams who would be willing to run smaller companies.
The auto and taxi of buyouts
"The moment a PE investor has invested in
your company, the 'taxi meter' is down; he needs
to exit in 4-5 years. And the meter is a very expensive
one - 25% is probably the minimum expectation."
- Sudip Bandyopadhyay, MD & CEO, Destimoney
Securities
"PE is extremely demanding capital and is
meant for businesses that can perform at high
velocities. The reason the exits picture (for PE
investors) is not rosy is because we (as an industry)
put money into companies that are not scalable. You
cannot put rocket fuel into an autorickshaw and
expect it to take off."
- Sandeep Reddy, Managing Director, Peepul Capital
Sector Focus:
Education
Session Chair:
Siddharth Raja, Partner,
Narasappa, Doraswamy & Raja
(L-R) Gopal Jain of Gaja Capital,
KK Iyer of India Equity Partners,
Amit Bansal of PurpleLeap,
Rajasekhar Babu of People Combine
and Siddharth Raja of Narasappa, Doraswamy & Raja.
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Moderator for the panel, Siddharth Raja, Partner, Narasappa, Doraswamy & Raja set the
ball rolling by remarking that education, besides healthcare, is
a sector that doesn’t really face a recession or downturn. He
also observed that the sector is of great social relevance and
impacts millions of citizens.
Recalling his experience of having made five direct and
many more indirect investments in the sector over the last seven
years,Gopal Jain, Managing Partner, Gaja Capital said
his firm would have done perhaps twice the number of
investments but for the regulatory constraints. Education seems
to be the only sector where the government is very reluctant to
partner with the private sector even though reforms here is
probably the
most immediate concern for India. He also opined that the moment
a market-related paradigm is replaced with a not-for-profit
paradigm, it increases the entry barrier for meritocracy.
KK Iyer, Managing Director, India
Equity Partners
observed that contrary to popular perception, some parts of the
education sector are closely linked to business cycles and have
suffered during the downturn. Also,
some players have found scaling up has been a real
challenge despite robust demand. Measures such as putting in a policy
framework for higher education, like what China has done, would
attract capital to the sector, he felt.
Recounting his entrepreneurial journey since 2007, Amit Bansal, CEO, PurpleLeap,
said while both the number of engineering colleges as well
as the capacity have more than doubled over the last five years,
most engineers could not be placed directly in jobs.
He pointed out that unlike in schooling, in higher education
(especially in the technology and business streams), bulk of the
colleges have been set up by the private sector, but quality
remains an issue. Given the
rigidity of the framework, he and his colleagues decided to
co-exist with the system and focus on the source where "damage"
was being done – colleges - and yet make a difference in terms
of scale and impact
Y V Rajasekhar Babu, Managing Director, People Combine,
which
runs Oakridge brand schools in Andhra Pradesh, detailed the
motivation factors which enabled him to create the second
largest International Baccalaureate (IB) school in Asia Pacific.
He said People Combines aims to offer the world’s best
school education at the cheapest price points, with the highest
customer satisfaction and, at the same time, achieve the highest
profits. He was also optimistic that regulatory challenges are
not such a big hurdle as they are made out to be and could be
overcome by private players.
Y V Rajasekhar Babu of People Combine and Siddharth Raja of Narasappa,
Doraswamy & Raja.
Kosturi Ghosh, Partner, Trilegal
set
the tone for the discussion on Healthcare & Life Sciences by
stating that it was heartening to note that the sector is topping
the
funding charts since investments in this sector leads to value accretion for India in
infrastructure, innovation and skill. She observing that private
equity has moved away from focusing solely on established
segments like hospitals to
investing increasingly in diagnostic chains and specialty clinics.
Raju Venkatraman, CEO, Medall Diagnostics,
compared the nascent state of healthcare services to the state of IT in
the mid-eighties and early nineties. Despite the lack of skilled labour force and lack of processes, the opportunity in terms of
dire needs is only growing and is enormous, he said. Citing how the largest diagnostic company is only
about $75 million in size and the sector accounts for a business volume
of about $3 billion, he pointed to the level of fragmentation in the
sector.
V T Bharadwaj, Managing Director, Sequoia
Capital India
agreed that healthcare related spending formed only a small part of the GDP in
India and the size at which investments were being made is very
small compared to the potential. He said that, when it comes to
investing, a company being small is not an issue by itself and, in
fact, innovative business models have emerged to provide
sophisticated care at affordable prices, requiring lower
investment thresholds. Before making an investment, he would look at
the unit economics and
would like to make sure that it works. Secondly, he would look
at capital intensity.
GSK Velu, Managing Director, Trivitron
explained how the relatively quicker profitability model of
diagnostic chains, compared to hospitals, attracts investors. He lamented the lack of
development of medical technology sector in India, in contrast
to the development in China and suggested that PE players should
look at that segment seriously.
(L-R) Alok Kejriwal of Games2win,
Gaurav Shah of DeGroup,
Sudhir Syal
of ET NOW,
Sunil Goyal of YourNest
Sandeep Reddy of Groffr and
Mahesh Murthy of Seedfund
Setting the
agenda for the discussion,Sudhir Syal, Editor & Co-Anchor -
Starting Up, ET NOW, wondered if
the recent shake-up in the e-commerce sector was a result of
investors getting their timing wrong. He also posed the question
whether the
customer acquisition cost was way too high for e-commerce sites.
Mahesh Murthy, Managing Partner, Seedfund,
agreed that VC investors had funded too many e-commerce
ventures at high
valuations and predicted that 2012 would be the year of reckoning for
such investments. Murthy advised companies to market themselves
by being remarkable and hence, triggering word of mouth,
rather than splurge on advertising . “Being a 'me too' in the mobile and Internet space is not the
safe
thing to do, but rather the dangerous thing to do," he remarked.
Responding to a
question on whether entrepreneurs got carried away by
the funding momentum,Sunil Goyal, CEO, YourNest Angel Fundsaid some entrepreneurs did fall into that trap because of
the low entry barriers and non-regulated nature of the Internet
and Mobile sectors. Going forward however, only innovative ideas
and fundamentally sound business models would attract
investors.
Alok Kejriwal, CEO and Co-Founder,
Games2win described
two approaches to building businesses - the "balance sheet
way" in which one spends first and earns much later and the "P&L
way" in which one earns revenue first and builds assets later.
He too
emphasized the need for Internet businesses to market themselves
by standing out from the crowd. “On the Internet, you don’t
advertise, you get discovered," said Kejriwal. When it comes to
valuation negotiations, since VCs anyway tend to a insist
on a minimum stake in the company, he advised entrepreneurs not
to worry about the percentage stake they end up diluting
and instead ask for more capital for the business.
Gaurav Shah, Group MD & CEO, DeGroup
talked about the mobile applications space and said that there
was no balance between the number of apps and the utility value
of apps. While the apps stores have been talking big money, apps
builders don’t get much money at all, he observed.
Sandeep Reddy, Co-founder, Groffroutlined the various challenges faced by entrepreneurs in
this sector including. With angel/seed funding, hiring
becomes easier once the brand building happens. But when the
organization scales up, hiring again becomes a challenge since
you now have to do it in higher volumes. Increase in funding
availability for Internet companies has helped increase the confidence
among entrepreneurs that, if they have a good idea, they can
get the capital required to scale the business, he added.
Participants interacting with
Sunil Goyal
of YourNest Angel Fund